Anti-Christianism?

There has been abundant discussion of Christian anti-Semitism on this blog, its causes and its destructive impact not only on Jews, whether Christian or not, but also on the Church itself. But recently I was perhaps not so much surprised as given food for thought while reading the well-known book by Dr. Jacob Jocz, The Jewish People and Jesus Christ, in which Dr. Jocz sets out to analyze the origins of Jewish distaste for Christianity – which he finds to run deeper in both history and emotion than could be explained solely by the anti-Semitism of the Church.

I’ll write more about Dr. Jocz’s book later (I’ve said that about several things recently, I know; I just can’t seem to catch up with myself), but the treatment of an Israeli Jewish Christian reported in this recent article is a distressing illustration of the point. For context, this 2009 item in the LA Times offers an illuminating summary of results from a survey on Israelis’ attitude toward Christianity:

42% believe Christianity is closer to Judaism than Islam. A total of 32% believe Islam is closer.  The breakdown of religious observance is interesting here, with 49% of Orthodox Jews believing   Islam is closer and only 17% believing that Christianity is. But 54% of secular Jews believe Christianity is closer and 22% that Islam is.[…]

41% agreed very much or largely with the claim that “Christianity is an idolatrous religion,” including 24% of secular and 78% of Orthodox Jews… 23% are greatly or significantly bothered when meeting in the street a Christian wearing a cross, including 8% of secular respondents and 60% of Orthodox Jews.

And here’s one that says a lot: 46% do not agree that Jerusalem is a central city for the Christian world, including 31% of secular and 67% of Orthodox Jews.

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I was born in Soviet Russia and grew up in Israel. I was baptized Orthodox Christian in 2006. Today my husband and I live in Northern Virginia. I would love to hear from you, so please leave a comment!
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22 Responses to Anti-Christianism?

  1. dr p says:

    if you go to roshpinaproject.com/ you will find stories of worse attacks, but also of Haredim spitting on Christian clergy. Given that anti-Christianity was first directed ad Christ Himself, and that modern day Orthodox Judaism is descended from that of the Pharisees, none of this should be surprising. The descendents of those who killed killed the prophets (Mt 23.31; Lk 11.47; Acts 7.52) and Christ Himself (Acts 3.11-26) are simply following in their fathers’ footsteps.

    • Which leads me to ask why in the header for this blog we find the Hasidic Jews called “the grooms family”.

      • The Groom's Family says:

        Because somewhere between when the joke in the blog header first appeared and today, some Hasids apparently lost their sense of humor…

    • The descendents of those who killed killed the prophets (Mt 23.31; Lk 11.47; Acts 7.52) and Christ Himself (Acts 3.11-26) are simply following in their fathers’ footsteps.

      Dr. P, forgive me if I overstep myself, but I simply do not see much love and compassion in this view. Yes, we have Christ’s famous line, “O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, you who kill the prophets and stone those sent to you, how often I have longed to gather your children together, as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings,” but we shouldn’t forget the love in this statement. Jews are children of God, too.

      • dr p says:

        I don’t recall saying they weren’t. However, there is a tendency to idealise Jews and Jewish culture to the exclusion of the abovementioned irrefutable facts in my earlier post. As for the love question, there is a world of difference between loving in the abstract (eg, libtards who love mankind and abominate people),and loving people warts and all. Frankly, I believe the latter to be the godly choice, and the latter naught but ersatz love. A

        I also recall Christ’s statement about Jerusalem. This is why confessional Protestants who believe as I do maintain and support active witnessing to Jews – contra the RCC, which tossed Scripture for an abstract sentimentality and abandoned its evangelistic responsibility of “to the Jew first.” Spare me such love!

        Finally, all the sentimentality fallen humanity can must won’t make Jewish covenant adultery go away. The numerous instances of arrogant and ignorant Gentiles who presumed to “help God” in His covenantal discipline of Jews does not change the facts either; “chad gadya, chad gadya.” To love Jews is to love God; to love Judaism is not.

  2. I meant no offense. The joke is cute and perhaps a little enlightening to folks who never thought of Jesus as Jewish. Though I understood the the joke to be more about the pious Jewish perspective of viewing the oddity of a nun (a celibate) marrying Christ (a jewish boy and a celibate, and the Messiah!!!). I see how it fits in with the quest of this blog to discover what the election of Israel has to do with Christ today. As humorous as the joke may be, I think that in the context of both humor and spiritual discussion it invites some probing. In the spirit of that quest I offer the above question in all honesty.

    • The Groom's Family says:

      No offense taken whatsoever! Sorry if my response suggested that it might have been. I’m glad the joke got you thinking!

  3. Doron says:

    And why not Charedishe Christianity? Did not Y’shua Himself observe the same law
    as the Perushim?
    Having said that, and as concerns Anti-Christianism, one only need to consider
    the history of Israel since Messiah, to “appreciate” the irony of the (Biblical) posit
    of blessing and cursing coming “back home”.

    • dr p says:

      No, He observed God’s laws and took many opportunities to break Pharisaical rules. IOW Christ practised God’s religion whilst the Pharisees practised Judaism.

  4. Doron says:

    And did He not Permit His Son’s circumcision as He did His baptism? And what of the
    celebration of the Feasts by the Same we read in New Testament? That legalism is the bane
    of all religions and of none is not to dismiss the letter for the spirit.

    • dr p says:

      1. He “permitted” nothing – He commanded so that Christ could fulfill all righteousness. 2. The legalism is the Pharisees’ turning grace into brownie points.
      3. God’s letter in no wise contradicts God’s Spirit; self -contradiction is for fallen creatures
      4. I have no problem marking the occasion of the former feasts; nobody can really celebrate them any more, because there is no temple. I have a major problem with Messianic Jews and their Gentile fellow-travelers mandating them for Christians of any background. It’s no different to Gentile Christians baptising their pagan ancestors’ customs and calling them Christian.

  5. Doron says:

    Shabbat Shalom Dr P,

    1.The Facts remain The Facts.
    2.The issue of “Works Righteousness” need hardly be confined to Pharisaic legalism.
    3.As Above.
    4.That for Messianic Jews, Jesus has become their Judaism, is a given.

    • dr p says:

      1. Facts are not in dispute, but rather interpretations and the frameworks from which they are derived
      2. If you mean that works righteousness is the natural religion of fallen man, which pharisaic legalism represents only one parcel of, then I agree
      4. insofar as maintaining OT observances is not seen as works righteousness or in any wise mandatory for any believers, I’m fine with that. However, that has not been my experience with the Messianics; perhaps yours has been different.

  6. Doron says:

    The issue is quite simple:Jesus and the Jews are inextricable.

  7. dr p says:

    @Doron: absolutely: as Will Rogers said, you can’t like an man and hate his dog, so you can’t love God and hate the Jews

    @strannik: can’t agree with your sites at all; from a confessional Reformed perspective, the Lord’s Day has become the Christian Sabbath just as baptism is our circumcision and communion is our Passover. Interestingly enough, our churches restrict song to the Psalms a capella and eschew pagan customs like Christmas and Easter. God hasn’t so much abolished as He has modified. Sounds pretty Jewish to me.

    • strannik says:

      I don’t understand the difference between what you are saying and what the pages I referred to are saying.

      • dr p says:

        Re: the Sabbath: whilst we are to sanctify every day, to keep the Lord’s Day – not the Lord’s Hour – as the Christian Sabbath indeed involves abstaining from both work and recreation on Sunday. In the US this is why there were the so-called “blue laws” which prohibited activities deemed unnecessary; these were a function of Presbyterian influence in American culture and jurisprudence. Sabbath activity is to be restricted to what the Westminster divines referred to as works of “necessity and mercy.” For example, running an emergency room would be appropriate, whilst a movie theatre would not be. IOW the website’s information wan’t wrong per se, but incomplete – at least from the Reformed perspective.

  8. Doron says:

    While in the wake of last week’s Jerusalem church desecrations by the “Price Tag” extremists may have many “christians” asking “what would Moses do?” we ought to understand that
    Anti-Messiah blasphemy whether Jewish or Gentile is equally infernal – Hebrew usage or not!

  9. SSS says:

    Israel is a fervent anti-christian country. There is much more anti-christianism in Israel than anti-semitism in every western country. The level of anti-christianism in Israel can be compared to the leven of anti-semitism to Europe in the late XIX century.

    http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4198711,00.html

    http://www.google.com.br/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cts=1331046684475&ved=0CCoQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.haaretz.com%2Fnews%2Fnational%2Fultra-orthodox-spitting-attacks-on-old-city-clergymen-becoming-daily-1.393669&ei=TClWT-WBHsjiggfpxLSrCg&usg=AFQjCNHkGUv_7bE3r7vktchvz-mG3n0Yzw&sig2=WmjgvJRrnmNzhX4PP6PS8Q

    And, of course, no one talks about it.

  10. Doron says:

    The above phenomena are frequently reported byJewish Believers as well;-
    Orthodox and heterodox.One of the former,being the inimitable ROCOR monk
    Br.Nathanael Kapner.

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